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		<title>By: joseph tame</title>
		<link>http://tamegoeswild.com/words/2009/06/interviewing_arudou_debito/comment-page-1/#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph tame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks JC, glad you found it interesting. I doubt Debito has to worry about discrimination being done away with overnight in Japan - I think we may have to wait a very very long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JC, glad you found it interesting. I doubt Debito has to worry about discrimination being done away with overnight in Japan &#8211; I think we may have to wait a very very long time.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just did all my research...watched the interview, read his bio, looked at his website, etc etc. Great interview, BTW, Joseph! Interesting to note that Debito&#039;s first immersion in Japan was the same year as me (88-89).

Anyway, there are so many layers to this... All I can say, is that there is something so very &quot;American&quot; about this whole thing (and I am American). I truly believe there are human beings that come out of the womb whose mandate in life is to find a cause, any cause, and fight it... Fortunately, this has produced the Martin Luther Kings and Gandhis of the world, fair enough. But I can&#039;t help wonder what Debito would do if he woke up one morning and found that he had been 100% accepted as Japanese- no more discrimination, no more racism, no opposition. Would he be willing (and happy) to lead a quiet, anonymous life? There&#039;s a certain celebrity that comes with all this &quot;fight The Man&quot; activism and I suspect he would feel its absence deeply. Of course this is an issue of human rights, but if you&#039;re at an Onsen where you know you&#039;re not welcome, where you know you&#039;re making everyone uncomfortable, wouldn&#039;t a little voice inside you suggest that maybe you should leave it alone and go somewhere else? It&#039;s Japan, not the American south in the 1950&#039;s! You&#039;re not the descendant of slaves.Impossible to compare the two. Japanese don&#039;t do well with &quot;absolute truths&quot;.

Nevertheless, we&#039;ve all had our feelings hurt at some point (like Joseph being refused a haircut), and I do feel a sense of vindication watching this guy fight his fight, at the very least in order to bring it into the consciousness of the average Japanese.

Very interesting debate, and this is why I enjoy reading the Mumble- always provides brain food!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just did all my research&#8230;watched the interview, read his bio, looked at his website, etc etc. Great interview, BTW, Joseph! Interesting to note that Debito&#8217;s first immersion in Japan was the same year as me (88-89).</p>
<p>Anyway, there are so many layers to this&#8230; All I can say, is that there is something so very &#8220;American&#8221; about this whole thing (and I am American). I truly believe there are human beings that come out of the womb whose mandate in life is to find a cause, any cause, and fight it&#8230; Fortunately, this has produced the Martin Luther Kings and Gandhis of the world, fair enough. But I can&#8217;t help wonder what Debito would do if he woke up one morning and found that he had been 100% accepted as Japanese- no more discrimination, no more racism, no opposition. Would he be willing (and happy) to lead a quiet, anonymous life? There&#8217;s a certain celebrity that comes with all this &#8220;fight The Man&#8221; activism and I suspect he would feel its absence deeply. Of course this is an issue of human rights, but if you&#8217;re at an Onsen where you know you&#8217;re not welcome, where you know you&#8217;re making everyone uncomfortable, wouldn&#8217;t a little voice inside you suggest that maybe you should leave it alone and go somewhere else? It&#8217;s Japan, not the American south in the 1950&#8217;s! You&#8217;re not the descendant of slaves.Impossible to compare the two. Japanese don&#8217;t do well with &#8220;absolute truths&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, we&#8217;ve all had our feelings hurt at some point (like Joseph being refused a haircut), and I do feel a sense of vindication watching this guy fight his fight, at the very least in order to bring it into the consciousness of the average Japanese.</p>
<p>Very interesting debate, and this is why I enjoy reading the Mumble- always provides brain food!</p>
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		<title>By: joseph tame</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph tame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orchid64, JC, David,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I&#039;ve been surprised not only by the number of people who&#039;ve criticised Debito for what he does, but also by the childish and personal manner in which they do it.

I spoke briefly to Debito about the thread of comments over on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.japansoc.com/Foreigners/same-old-debito-now-in-audio-format/&quot; title=&quot;Japan Soc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Japan Soc&lt;/a&gt; (which now run to 52) - he was saying how he&#039;s never met any of these people. 

Some appear to be using their online status (acquired by, for example, running successful statistics sites) to bully someone whom for some reason they feel threatened by. As Orchid64 mentioned over there, I bet half of them didn&#039;t even watch the video, but just saw it as an opportunity to criticise him. As David said, Debito&#039;s a pretty jovial fellow, and I would hope that those who took the time to watch the interview got a sense of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orchid64, JC, David,</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind comments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been surprised not only by the number of people who&#8217;ve criticised Debito for what he does, but also by the childish and personal manner in which they do it.</p>
<p>I spoke briefly to Debito about the thread of comments over on <a href="http://www.japansoc.com/Foreigners/same-old-debito-now-in-audio-format/" title="Japan Soc" rel="nofollow">Japan Soc</a> (which now run to 52) &#8211; he was saying how he&#8217;s never met any of these people. </p>
<p>Some appear to be using their online status (acquired by, for example, running successful statistics sites) to bully someone whom for some reason they feel threatened by. As Orchid64 mentioned over there, I bet half of them didn&#8217;t even watch the video, but just saw it as an opportunity to criticise him. As David said, Debito&#8217;s a pretty jovial fellow, and I would hope that those who took the time to watch the interview got a sense of that.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interview was good, man. If you don&#039;t draw attention to shortcomings in your work, no one else with notice them either 笑.

Bingo, Orchid, especially point 4. Unfortunately, what I find gets you the &quot;most liked by the Japanese&quot; is fulfilling every foreigner stereotype you can think of. Marvel at everything, stumble on the language, and avoid controversy. I like to think I don&#039;t take as much shit as others, and have gotten a little down and dirty with friends, teachers, and my host family, but Debito&#039;s on a whole other level, and I think there are few people with the experience, ability, integrity, and track record to be able to legitimately criticize the guy for anything.

Also, if you&#039;re convinced that he&#039;s just in this country to be angry and stir shit up, you need to sit down for a beer with him. He&#039;s actually quite a jovial fellow beneath the activist exterior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interview was good, man. If you don&#8217;t draw attention to shortcomings in your work, no one else with notice them either 笑.</p>
<p>Bingo, Orchid, especially point 4. Unfortunately, what I find gets you the &#8220;most liked by the Japanese&#8221; is fulfilling every foreigner stereotype you can think of. Marvel at everything, stumble on the language, and avoid controversy. I like to think I don&#8217;t take as much shit as others, and have gotten a little down and dirty with friends, teachers, and my host family, but Debito&#8217;s on a whole other level, and I think there are few people with the experience, ability, integrity, and track record to be able to legitimately criticize the guy for anything.</p>
<p>Also, if you&#8217;re convinced that he&#8217;s just in this country to be angry and stir shit up, you need to sit down for a beer with him. He&#8217;s actually quite a jovial fellow beneath the activist exterior.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to see this Debito interview and read more about it, but from my initial read of &quot;Orchid&#039;s&quot; comments, I have to say he completely hit the nail on the head in the fourth paragraph...very true! I only spent a total of two years in Japan... but being called gaijin never, ever bothered me. I didn&#039;t like getting pointed at and chased by little kids screaming it, but I used &quot;gaijin&quot; to refer to myself and other gaijin. After all, that&#039;s what we are- and anyone who goes to Japan with the notion that they are going to find a community of people that will accept them as one of their own and &quot;forget&quot; the fact that they are, uh, gaijin, is in for a rude awakening! I think if one is happy with oneself and has a strong sense of their own identity, that need to &quot;become Japanese&quot; isn&#039;t there and they&#039;re more than happy and willing to call themselves a gaijin. And, equating it with the &quot;N&quot; word (I can&#039;t even type it) is absurd. 

All that having been said, I do think Orchid&#039;s comments could be a little more diplomatic, but what he&#039;s saying is quite true to a large degree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to see this Debito interview and read more about it, but from my initial read of &#8220;Orchid&#8217;s&#8221; comments, I have to say he completely hit the nail on the head in the fourth paragraph&#8230;very true! I only spent a total of two years in Japan&#8230; but being called gaijin never, ever bothered me. I didn&#8217;t like getting pointed at and chased by little kids screaming it, but I used &#8220;gaijin&#8221; to refer to myself and other gaijin. After all, that&#8217;s what we are- and anyone who goes to Japan with the notion that they are going to find a community of people that will accept them as one of their own and &#8220;forget&#8221; the fact that they are, uh, gaijin, is in for a rude awakening! I think if one is happy with oneself and has a strong sense of their own identity, that need to &#8220;become Japanese&#8221; isn&#8217;t there and they&#8217;re more than happy and willing to call themselves a gaijin. And, equating it with the &#8220;N&#8221; word (I can&#8217;t even type it) is absurd. </p>
<p>All that having been said, I do think Orchid&#8217;s comments could be a little more diplomatic, but what he&#8217;s saying is quite true to a large degree!</p>
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		<title>By: Orchid64</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orchid64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought your interview was fine, though on the casual side. I do see what you mean with the laughing and whatnot, but there were some jokes so it didn&#039;t seem to be out of tone.

I&#039;m not the least bit surprised that people criticized Debito. There was once an article about advocating for foreigners on Japan Probe (another site which is mainly about stirring up problems and creating as much backbiting and fighting as possible) and the consensus was that they wanted someone to represent them with the Japanese, but not Debito. Of course, not one of them was willing to step up to the plate. What Debito does is a completely thankless task, though I would thank him (and once did in response to one of his Japan Time articles, and I was told my response was forwarded to him). 

I said this before on my own blog and I still believe it. Anyone who advocates racism is, at heart, a racist. They approve of the way the Japanese treat foreigners because, deep down, that&#039;s the way they&#039;d like to treat them if their home countries&#039; laws and social constraints didn&#039;t prevent them from doing so. You don&#039;t apologize for people whose actions you don&#039;t approve of. 

After so long here, I have also developed a theory that the most vocal (and possibly the majority, but certainly not all) of foreign males in Japan are insecure and competitive amongst one another. They will do anything to be the most liked by the Japanese. It&#039;s like they were the unpopular kid at school and have poor self-esteem so they come here and want to be liked unconditionally. If selling their souls and chucking ethics and humanity out the window is the price to pay for an ego boost, it&#039;s a price they&#039;re delighted to fork over. The chance to finally be &quot;special&quot; for doing very little is more important than anything. Tolerating a little racism so you can feel extraordinary when you are clearly ordinary doesn&#039;t strike them as being too big a price to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought your interview was fine, though on the casual side. I do see what you mean with the laughing and whatnot, but there were some jokes so it didn&#8217;t seem to be out of tone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the least bit surprised that people criticized Debito. There was once an article about advocating for foreigners on Japan Probe (another site which is mainly about stirring up problems and creating as much backbiting and fighting as possible) and the consensus was that they wanted someone to represent them with the Japanese, but not Debito. Of course, not one of them was willing to step up to the plate. What Debito does is a completely thankless task, though I would thank him (and once did in response to one of his Japan Time articles, and I was told my response was forwarded to him). </p>
<p>I said this before on my own blog and I still believe it. Anyone who advocates racism is, at heart, a racist. They approve of the way the Japanese treat foreigners because, deep down, that&#8217;s the way they&#8217;d like to treat them if their home countries&#8217; laws and social constraints didn&#8217;t prevent them from doing so. You don&#8217;t apologize for people whose actions you don&#8217;t approve of. </p>
<p>After so long here, I have also developed a theory that the most vocal (and possibly the majority, but certainly not all) of foreign males in Japan are insecure and competitive amongst one another. They will do anything to be the most liked by the Japanese. It&#8217;s like they were the unpopular kid at school and have poor self-esteem so they come here and want to be liked unconditionally. If selling their souls and chucking ethics and humanity out the window is the price to pay for an ego boost, it&#8217;s a price they&#8217;re delighted to fork over. The chance to finally be &#8220;special&#8221; for doing very little is more important than anything. Tolerating a little racism so you can feel extraordinary when you are clearly ordinary doesn&#8217;t strike them as being too big a price to pay.</p>
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